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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> hey. good morning, everybody. it is wednesday, wednesday june 27th. so good to see you today. thank you for joining us. welcome to the full-court press on current tv coming to you live all the way across this great land of ours. how about this? big news today, joe williams the white house correspondent for politico was suspended last week for comments that he made on msnbc about mitt romney. today, joe williams tells his side of the story for the very first time on radio and television, right here on the
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full court press. >> that's just part of today's dynamic program. so i have got to say, stay tuned. we have the latest news in today's current news update from jacki schechner out in los angeles. good morning, jacki. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everybody. 58% of republicans say their vote for president is going to be against president obama rather than for mitt romney according to the latest "wall street journal" poll which has the president up by three points, 47 to 44. the president's holding the expected demographic young voters african-americans and latin owes and up with women. while his over all favor ability has dropped a point, more view him favorablely than unfavor alan. romnecks numbers are slightly lessen couraging. he has the tea party vote and leads among whites and men but behind bay by 8 points and viewed more unfavorablebly with
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a spread of six points nationally. voters continue to see the economy in a negative light and they are split on whether or not the president's policies have done more harm than good but 6 in 10 agree the president inherited this mess overall. we are hearing words like epic and surreal, more than 32,000 people in colorado springs are now forced out of their homes as the waldo canyon fire is burning into several neighborhoods. fire authorities are calling it the worst fire season in the history of colorado. heavy winds have blown the fire over containment lines. even the air force academy is shutting down as the higher bears down on its campus. a week of record temperatures is only complicating the fight to get the fire under control. fighting fires across colorado has already cost the state $30 million or now at least a dozen different fires burning across the state. crazy-looking stuff. more bill press coming up after the break. join us in chat live online at any time. just go to current.com/billpress. we will see you there.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] he's back in d.c. and does face felony hit and run charges for tonight john fugelsang is filling on viewpoint with eliot spitzer. >>that was mitt romney showing once again his fearless fear of taking a stand that helps make him all things to no people.
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desk top, lab top, ipad. iphone. >> pleasant your hearts. >> the big one. >> stephanie: all i know, the little flower is there and it means go to meeting. i love go to meeting.
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on current tv? >>joy behar is getting her own show coming to current tv this fall. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] broadcast across the nation, on your radio and on current tv this is the bill press show. >> charlie rangel makes it back in. 82 years old, he won another primary. there is life and in good ol' charlie yet. hey, hello everybody. it is wednesday. here we go. wednesday, june 27th. so good to see you today. it's a big day here on the full-court press. every day is a big day around the full court press. it makes it bigger and better
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when you are here with us. welcome, welcome, welcome whether you are listen okay your local progressive talk radio station, god bless them, listening on sirius xm only this one hour, because they made a big stupid programming decision at sirius xm. or here on current tv. good to have you with us today. we've got a lot to cover, and we've got the whole team in to do so. peter ogburn and dan henning and cyprian bowlding what do you say. >> good to see you. >> i am excited about the fourth of july even though it's not until next week. >> a week from today. >> i am not excited about it at all. it's in the middle of the week. >> it's a day off. >> wasn't a saturday. >> what are you going to do? then you would get the monday or the friday before off. what are you going to do with a wednesday? >> agreed. agreed. >> i will take it. dan, do you want to come into work? >> i am more than happy to come to work. >> you got it. >> what else am i going to do for one day? who came up with this?
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really? >> ben franklin. >> talking about having a day off? off? >> i am complaining about it in the middle of the week. >> that's what i like about labor day and memorial day, always on monday. den hanning is working next week week. it will be a one-man show. >> nobody will be watching. dan will be here. sad news, we knew it couldn't last forever. it could not last forever. do we have a little sad music? >> i am sure. >> i think we need this because -- yeah, we learned yesterday, shocking, shocking that the marriage or the relationship of rielle hunter and john edwards is all over. she announced it yesterday. >> we are a family, but as of last -- the end of last week, john edwards and i are no longer a couple. >> there it is. >> sad. >> it is sad. isn't it? >> the problem, you know, with
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straight marriages, they don't last. you can't count on them. >> destroying the fabric of this country. >> seems like i have heard that conversation. hey, rielle this is john, johnny. >> johnny. >> right. >> the more serious stuff, we've got a great line-up for you today, two members of congress adam shift from calendar is going to be in studio with us as will congressman joe courtney from connecticut but the big news, joe williams you have seen him in many times, the white house and congressional correspondent for politico politico.com, he's been suspended by politico for some comments he made last week about mitt romney. joe has kept his silence until now. but he is speaking out today. he is speaking out, boom, right here, on the full court press at the top of our third hour together this morning. so can't wait to see joe and hear his side of the story.
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and he will take your calls as will we always at 866-55-press. democrats, one more time get circles run around them on healthcare and immigration. i will tell you all about it, but first: >> this is the full court press. >> what have you got, dan? >> bill, no surprise here, president obama took time during his trip south for lunch yesterday and a big one at that. he stopped at what is the largest drive-in restaurant in the country, the varsity in atlanta, georgia. he is not the first president to visit. >> never been there. >> the place known for saying: what will you have? jimmy carter george bush and bill clinton have also been there. obama paid cash for five chili dogs, four regular dogs and a cheese burger according to the white house pool report. >> did anybody else get anything. >> buying for jay carney and valerie jarrod but that's not confirmed. >> five chili dogs?
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>> four hot dogs and a cheese burger. >> to be fair, i will say this having been to the varsity many times and i was just there the other day or just a few months ago, i should say. not the other day. but their dogs are not very big. their chili dogs are not very big. they do have the regional specialty there known as the chili slaw dog and it's got chili and a bunch of cole slaw. >> you have to feel sick if you get one of those. >> a man who enjoys a chili dog, former michael phelps lost in the men's 40 omidley at the trials yesterday. he didn't lose. he just came in second. the world's record. >> second place, first lose other. >> >>. >> beaten by ryan lofty. they will head to the olympics. lofty has some catching up to do. phelps won 14 gold medals last summer. >> wow.
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getting his stuff together here for london. >> and out of hollywood, big news for avatar, signory weaver will have three seek wells. the rollout will start with avatar 2 being released but not until 2016. >> filmed simultaneously? >> staple. >> but not released? >> exactly. >> that would be a bad business model. >> i would think so. i think it would be confusing to film them all at once. dan, thank you. yes, indeed, you know, we talked before about how democrats just miss the bus sometimes when it comes to messaging. and we talked yesterday, a lot yesterday, and we'll be talking more about the supreme court decisions this week, particularly on two big issues: immigration and healthcare. and i was looking at some stuff yesterday that just brought home
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this fact about how sad it is really that democrats can be so right on the issue and yet lose the public donations war lose the messaging war and as a result of that, they end up losing on the issues not to get to esoteric here but let's bring it down. let's start off with healthcare. okay? the latest gallup polls reported in the -- it was reuters. reuters poll reported in the "washington post" yesterday showed that 56% of americans -- now not that the supreme court should make its decision based on what the polls say, but 56% of americans think that the affordable care act, the obamacare, should be deemed and found unconstitutional. they don't like it. they think it's too much government, blah, blah, blah. right? okay. and yet, what the post did, i
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thought was interesting. then they took a look at the individual provisions of the act act. let's take allowing kids to stay on their parents' healthcare plan until they are 26. 56 of republicans say that's a good idea. how about for those who can't afford healthcare still, we would have a subsidy for those people, depending upon how much they could pay, a sliding-scale subsidy for people who can't afford to purchase healthcare. okay? 57% of republicans say that's a good idea. i support that idea. how about the fact that insurance companies should no longer be able to deny you coverage because you have a pre-existing condition? you had pneumonia once or diabetes or something. right? and that's always a policy until the affordable care act.
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how about banning that so the insurance company could no longer reduce the insurance because of a pre-existing condition. are you ready for this? 78% of republicans support that idea. the point is are when you brake it down, on every single provision, republicans, of course the general public overall but even republicans support every single provision, but when you say: should the entire act be found unconstitutional? 56% say, yes. now, why is that? why? it's because republicans were able to turn the tide against healthcare by saying it was big government, it was government-run healthcare, you know, it puts the government in charge, takes the responsibility away from the patients and the doctors and all of this crap,
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which is not true but they said it over and over and over again people started buying it and the white house and democrats in general just missed the chance to make the case as they did, by the way, in previous years to make the case, why it's just mund fundamentally part and, i think, part of the fiber of this country that every single american should be able to have protection, healthcare protection for him and her and their families. it's just like we have the right to vote, we ought to have the right to have healthcare. democrats didn't -- didn't -- they gave up on it, didn't sell it. you know, another part of healthcare you could talk about is the individual mandate. it's the same thing. here it is, republicans made that the worst part the most hated part of the healthcare reform legislation and yet as we pointed out here several times on the show, the individual
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mandate didn't come from the center for american progress. it didn't come from any democratic think tank. it didn't come from any democratic senator or member of congress. it came from the heritage foundation, the republican party. it was their idea and democrats only bought it because they thought that would get them republican votes, and it did. republicans supported it. mitt romney among others supported it mitch mcconnell support it until barack obama embraced it and then they said this is terrible. we have if obama is for it, we have to be against it. even something that was a republican idea on how to cut costs and to make sure the insurance companies could cover everybody, the individual mandate turns out to be the most hated provision of it again because the republicans did a good job on their messaging it. why is it that we lose the battle when it comes -- maybe the most important battle which is the public relations side of these issues. 866-55-press.
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866-5577377. we just have to do a better job of telling the truth and getting our story out. >> that's one issue. let me tell you quickly about the other one. how about immigration? if you -- we went through this whole data on immigration in arizona and the supreme court decision, and if you listen to the republican rhetoric today, times are really, really bad out there. the border is porous there is no protection there are no guards. if there are they are looking the other day while armies are pouring across the border. the fact? just the opposite. the pew hispanic center a couple of months ago in april released a report that showed -- bet you don't know this. right? a report that showed that the flow of immigrants illegal, is coming to people symbol this country has stopped if not reversed. there are as many people leaving the country treed today for a whole variety of factors, the
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job market here in the united states is not as good as it once was. there is tougher enforcement. there are over twice as many border guards at the border as there were before. and we've got drones down there and the border is really secure. so all of this talk about, oh, my god, we are being overrun with illegal immigrants. we have to do something. arizona has to be able to do whatever it wants is based on pure cawcaw. the facts are the border is secure today, more secure than it's ever been. fewer people are coming across today and as many people are leaving every day as are coming across the border. and again, those are the facts. why do we know that? why don't the american people know that? because republicans have done a better job at the messaging of saying, the sky is falling. the sky is falling on the -- on the u.s. mexican border and democrats have done just a damn poor job of getting the truth out, which is this is much ado
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about nothing. this will whole immigration thing, much ado about nothing. i know time to stop talking about immigration, stop seeing it as a problem. we do need comprehensive immigration reform which is the only long-term solution but stop seeing it as an immediate crisis with people rushing across the border every day because they are simply not doing so and i defy anybody to show me that's not true. i just, you know, i see that and i same, we've got -- we are ride on the -- we are right. we are right on the issues but we are doing a piss poor job of getting our message across and telling our story. we've got to do better. 866-55-press. how can we do better? 866-55-7737. we do our share every day here on the full-court press and, you know, stephanie and jennifer granholm and eliot spitzer and cenk and all of the rest of us do our job here but i think the politicians got to do a better job. we can't do it all for them.
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8665377. let's talk about it. >> this is the full court press, the bill press show, live on your radio and on current tv. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] you want to save money on car insurance? no problem. you want to save money on rv insurance? no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things? (vo) john fugelsang is filling in >> he caved on the public option, he caved on the bush tax cuts, the guy has caved so many times there are miners trapped inside of him.
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>> stephanie: 45 minutes after the hour. we'll be back as we close "the stephanie miller show." >> on "the stephanie miller show" in suburban america this [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> this is the bill press show live on your radio and current tv. >> at 25 minutes after the hour we are talking about democrats missing the boat getting the word out on both immigration and on healthcare. and that report i told you about by the pew hispanic center in april, the conclusion of the report was quote, quoting it
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now, the largest waive of wave of immigration to a single country, mexico to the united states, has come to a complete standstill. boy, you never would have believed that speaking to jan brewer. kathleen calling from chicago. hey, kathleen. good morning. >> ho are you doing? >> i am good. what do you think? >> you took the thunder out of me today. i have been saying what you have been saying for the longest. the president has always in my opinion, been by his self. his party is the worst party in the world to be behind him. i don't understand how democrats, if they are real democrats, can come out and let republicans take they message and run with it. democrats are good people on the whole but they act like they are scared. what are you scared of? half the time, they don't want to be seen with him. and then when he go to say something or do something or lay out a plan they jump ship.
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it's almost like they pounce. look what's going on. >> look at cory booker and randall. >> that's what i am saying. this man cannot do it by his self. you know, democrats need to be like the republicans do. at the end of the day, go to a quiet room and strategize and say, no matter what, now do right. don't do nothing wrong. stick with your convictions. if you don't stick with your convictions, you know, how it goes, together we stand. why can't we do it. >> kathleen, listen. i continue agree more. i have to tell you. i would like to get you right in front of the democratic convention or maybe in front of the democratic caucus on the hill in front of the house and the senate and give these guys this message. while you are at it, tell all of these chicken you know what you democrats who say i am not going to go to the democratic convention in charlotte because i would rather be home talking to my voters. get your ass down there and show the flag.
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ron is calling from elgin, illinois. good morning, ron. >> good morning, bill. number 1, it's sound byte mentality. people don't do enough research. they don't do enough reading. they know more about "dancing with the stars" than the healthcare. >> right but we have to be better at the sound byte world. >> the democrats and the politicians have got to call out the republicans when they are being untruthful. >> absolutely. >> and without any punches being held back, they have to hit them heart saying you are not being truthfully. >> absolutely. absolutely. it's like, you know, again, i come back to bain capital. not criticize bain canppal? the hell with that. tell the truth about bain capital. tell the truth about immigration. tell the truth about healthcare and call these people out for the lies that they keep telling. we've got to continue fighting back. >> this is the bill press show.
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feed the beast right? which was just as you say -- maybe it was starve the beast. i'll look it up during the break. a phrase there. but he said -- exactly what ed is talking about is pile up more and more debt. pile up more and more debt and get to the point where the whole system collapses and then they will have achieved their end of basically shutting down the government. they're anti-government which i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> heard around the country and seen on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> thirty-three minutes now after the hour on a wednesday, wednesday, june 27th. don't forget joe williams white house correspondent for politico suspended by politico for his comments on mitt romney last week. he is still on suspension but he will speak out for the first time today about his status and his future with politico. he will be joining us at the top of our third hour together this morning. so we've got to be there to hear
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from joe williams. i am very excited about that. and on our website today, bill press show.com a lot of you commented yesterday on mudcat saunders. boy, it'snub to hear somebody. he doesn't mind being called al hill billy. you don't hear many who are liberals. >> that's right. >> he is a real hill billy, mudcat saunders in here yesterday and we talked negative campaigning and negative ads with frank rich from new york magazine. a great conversation. >> that's a free podcast today if you go to the website natures you missed it, go to bill press show.com. we wanted to check in on all of the latest. president obama back in town today after another two-day campaign swing. david jackson covers the white
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house. up early. good morning. >> good morning, bill. >> so the president back in town. we actually have a briefing today, first one in about a week. right? >> yes. the last pre-supreme court healthcare ruling briefing will be today. so whatever he says today will be inoperative in about 27 hours. >> exactly. so, i guess is this the way it's going to be from now until november, david? you have been around a lot longer than i have. when you get into campaign season, the official kind of white house activities sort of take second place? >> very much so. yeah. everything will be seen through the political lens at this point. it's starting a little bit earlier. it seems to start earlier and earlier every year. there is a presidency governing presidency in the reelection campaign. they are supposed to be separate but, you know, they are basically running parallel at this point. >> yeah. i notice today that -- i forget the exact dates but the president is having his own bus tour next week? >> i heard about that, ohio and
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pennsylvania. >> so, you know, the nuns are on the bus. romney is on the bus the. now president obama will be on the bus. >> of course we will get complaints about taxpayer money from for campaigning. we heard about it in '04 with president bush. it's hard to separate the two at this point. i will put it that way. >> my big question about today's briefing is will neil monroe be there representing the daily caller? >> don't get me involved in that although i have not seen him since that incident. >> we haven't had a briefing. maybe there has been one f i was out for a couple of days myself, last week. but let me just ask you this: who makes the decision about whether neil monroe continues to represent the daily caller? >> well, hopeful tucker carlson who runs the daily caller. i don't think he is a member of the association. there is not a lot the association can do about it. but one thing i don't think he
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is a perm card holder. i think he is applying for one. the white house can determine whether or not he gets a day pass as a reporter. they will also play a role in this. i have i have not heard. i have not heard whether he has applied for one or, like i say, i haven't seen him around. >> tucker may say you are our guy at the white house. he may apply for his daily pass. that doesn't automatically mean he gets one? does it? >> no. it didn't. if the white house turns him down, that will be another sting. my gut tells me they are not going to press it. but we will see. >> immigration, we heard from the supreme court a couple of days ago. is it already a couple of days? yeah. >> monday, yes. >> this was a split decision but overall, the obama administration came out pretty well. don't you think. >> very much so. most of the law fell. the part of the law that gave police and local authorities a wide latitude to check the
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status of people who they think might be illegal immigrants. they did preserve a section of the law that said police can check people's papers when they are arrested or detained but even there the court warned that they will be watching the application of that provision very closely. so we could see another case pop up on that as soon as somebody is busted under it. >> the other provisions were overturned. >> right exactly the the only law that is preserved is police can check the status. they can already do that anyway. the practical effect is the state has less power to basically stop people they just happen on to think are illegal immigrants and it said it's a federal not state responsibility. >> president obama has been saying and what the administration has been saying. the anticipation is on the healthcare ruling. the supreme court claiming the drama, extending the drama for as long as they can has put it
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off until thursday. you know, we've heard at the whitehouse david, from jay carney all along where in responses to many, many questions, right on this, do you have a back-up plan? and they keep saying we are confident it will be held up, that it will be found constitutional. that still could happen. but do they have a back-up plan? >> i am sure they do. i am sure they have several contingencies and they will be ready. they will be ready with a response the day of the ruling, and if the ruling is adverse, i think in the coming days, you will see a series of announcements designed to cope with the fallout from the ruling and, also, to try to, you know get the public back on their side. i am certain that they have some kind of contingency plan. >> it might be -- it could very well be another split decision, you know, upholding all of the law, doing away with the individual mandate. i think it's unlikely to be a total reversible or a totally approval. >> i think you are right. ig it's going to be very
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confusing if they take program by program in the healthcare law and keep some and get others it could be very confusing. my concern as a gennist, i am afraid it's go can to be hard to explain to people. i think the bottom line, the individual mandate will either stand or fall and i think that will be the key to whatever the court does. >> yesterday, the president gave a little sign, i thought, when he was down in atlanta of maybe what we might hear from him regardless of which way the decision goes. here is the president, one of the big campaign events yesterday. >> i believe health reform was the right thing to do. i believe it was right to make sure that over 3 million young people can stay on their parents' health insurance plans. i believe it was right to provide more discounts for seniors on their prescription drugs. >> so he is not backing away saying we did the right thing. right? >> i noticed that, too. i wrote about something. i wrote about the romney attacks but i did notice that the healthcare riff was a little longer than what we have heard.
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i suspect he is getting ready to respond. >> don't you think he is trying out a messaging in response to whatever the supreme court may come up with? >> right. it very much feels that way. i think you are right about that. >> yeah. will we know? i guess there is no inkling to know ahead of time what they might decide. the white house won't have any idea either, will they? >> we are not supposed to. >> right. >> hasn't been a supreme court discretion leaked early since the new deal. i would be shocked. i think there is concern, in their heart of hearts, they don't think the individual mandate, the requirement that most americans buy insurance or pay a penalty will survive. i think they are kind of expecting a bad day tomorrow. >> even though as we pointed outed, been talking the last couple of days that the individual mandate didn't come from any democratic think tank. it came from the heritage foundation. it was originally adopted by republicans as a way of cost cutting. >> right. exactly. >> i think it was back in bill
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clinton's day when he said, this is not a bad idea. let's borrow this from the republicans and once democrats embraced it, it became the poison pill. >> law professor at georgetown basically has said from day one he thinks it's inp unconstitutional and he has pushed that through all the way to the supreme court. tomorrow, we will find out whether he is right or the court disagrees but you are right. all of that has been the back backwash of history. it will be interesting if the court rules against the mandate, it will be interesting to read the dissents. >> absolutely. we will see what's on the docket today. a briefing scheduled for 12:30. so save me a seat. i will see you down there. >> you, too, bill. thank you. >> thanks, david, david jackson does a great job on covering the white house for usa today. we have been talking about and touched on it with david, about this messaging and the importance of messaging and how democrats have really they
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really lost the race here, i think, in getting their message out and allowed republicans on immigration and healthcare to turn the public against what really does make sense and to convince most people to believe a set of facts which don't really exist in reality. more calls on that coming up at 866-55-press. and like the obama campaign how come they are so good at campaigning and have done such an average job at best in terms of messaging from the whistlete house? kathleen pointed out earlier: why aren't more democratic politicians, senators and members of congress backing up the president. he can't do it alone. >> this is the bill press show. where your vote is worth just as much as donald trump's. we must save the country. it starts with you.
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>> on your radio, and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> how about a 13 minutes before the top of the hour? congressman joe courtney from connecticut in studio with us in the next hour. and we will also talk at the top of the hour with sister simon campbell. she was in here in studio with us. she is one the leaders of the nuns on the bus on their tour through the heartland, critical of and whipping up opposition to the paul ryan budget because of its negative impact on any programs helping the poor. sister simone campbell and joe campbell in the next hour. right now we have been talking about particularly on immigration and healthcare and
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how republican democrats blew it and republicans were able to turn these issues turn public opinion against sound policies in both areas. pow, how do they do that? how do we lose the messaging war? paul, from bluffton, south carolina. >> the way we do it is doing what the dramn republicans do like hiring a guy like frank will you tell. >> -- lutz. when he came up with this idea of the affordable care act should be called obamacare, we should have countered with, you mean obama does care. and all of this. i mean i can't believe that the democratic committee and senatorial committee cannot throw in $100,000 each and higher such a consultant like that. we have -- we have friends in hollywood, directors, screen writers, actors. why can't we gather them together, form a committee and
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simply say: help us articulate our cause. you know how to present a point of view. >> yeah. i know. there are people -- there are people out there. and, you know, frank luntz, i think he is diabolical but he is clever. >> doing his job. >> that's true. no. that's true. he delivered. >> i told this. i told this to congressman cliburn to his face when he and at a speaking engagement in georgia even though he is a south carolina congressman. i mean i only did it, you know, passing like in a minute and a half talking but i said you've got to get -- take off the shackles. you've got to hire somebody and, you know. >> good advice. good advice. you know, the other thing, paul -- >> you have such contact. you've got to present this to somebody. i mean you are the one who knows. you could call up the
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leadership. nancy pelosi, schultz there. tell them, for god's sake hire somebody. >> look. i know them all. >> i am going to put the burden on you. >> i hear i, paul. i hear you. you talked to the congressman. now it's up to me. i made that case over and over again. i think another part of the problem is the democrats just assume that if they are right on the issue, and i think they are on most issues that people will see their point of view and come around to their point of view that you don't have to beat them over the head with it. and that's just not simply true and the republicans know that. you know, they just keep beating, beating, beating and making the point and selling the lies and putting it out there. and eventually, it works. but, you know, they never take anything for granted. now, paul's absolutely right. they hire these guys. they come up with the right words, the right phrases, you know, and, you know, like job
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creators for the billionaires? right? they are the job creators. we can't raise taxes on the job creators. i mean it's just total total nonsense but if you say it enough, enough idiots will believe him. a roving ambassador arnold checking in from fayetteville, north carolina. what do you say, arnold? >> i think you have got a nice subject this morning. man, i am so sick and tired of the democrats in our party, the way they are on vacation. i heard peter say, reporting justin beiber had a beat down on somebody. our democratic leaders, harry reid, time and time, it goes on like this, you know. we should send people to the mic phone, get on t.v. and always come up with, i guess you are right, you know. it makes you sick you know. >> i know. i think, look, on every issue, when they come out and say immigration is out of control,
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you know, obama's got to get up there and say, bs. here is what the facts are. right? here are the number of guards we have at the border compared to what they used to be. here are the number of people who come across compared to what they used to be. when they said the stimulus did not create a job. not just him. right? but all of these other spineless democrats. >> democrats need to say something. >> yeah. bs. here is what the facts are. >> they stood on the side line, bill, and watched the republicans just start from a whisper campaign to a full-blown hate. they put acorn in the ground and did nothing. >> we should have learned our lesson on acorn. arnold, good to hear from you. we have to make plans to get together in charlotte with arnold. >> 7. >> yeah. we can roll into town on the 18-wheeler. >> how great would that be? >> boy. >> lease a calling from houston. what do you say, lease a?
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>> hi. >> here is the thing. it's kind of like all of the above. number 1, everybody in congress maybe everybody in america, everybody in the media needs to understand the word change. change management is the hardest thing to teach you ever saw. people just taught change means different. no. change means a whole different mindset. when barack obama mentioned the word change and hope people thought it was a word. no. that means changing your whole mentality. barack obama's change was walking into the white house. the democratic party was used to sitting around letting things happen. they didn't know they had to change because it was a different mindset now. you can't just sit there and do like you used to do say give me my block grants and i will give it out to my people and it will be okay. the republicans understood that. the other thing is the liberal media. when this came out, when the healthcare plan came out, you guys have got to be the -- not just talking about you, bill,
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but the liberal media has to be the gate keepers. gate keepers tell us what we need to know. >> i will take that comment and accept that responsibility lease a. but -- lisa, but i think the ones that are really responsible for this is the leadership of the house and the leadership of the senate the people around the president as well. they've got to deliver the mention. they are the ones who step up to the mic phone. we can back them up in the progressive media and we do. but they have got to get their stuff together when it comes to messaging. we keep losing these battles and we should not because we are on the right side of the battles. >> this is the bill press show.
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suspended by politico for some comments he made on msnbc last week about mitt romney. joe has kept his silence so far. but no longer. he will be here today at the top of our third hour this morning to tell us his side of the story for the first time. don't miss it. but first, let's find out all of the latest that's going on. jacki schechner has the word for us out in los angeles with today's current news update. good morning, jacki. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everybody. it looks like congress may meet the deadline to keep student loans from doubling. they say they have reached a bi-partisan deal. we don't know details but we know the loan freeze may be tied to the highway bill extension. we will know more later today. two long-time incumbents have survived shalt challenges. charlie rangel in the 13th district and/orin hatch, the republican senator from utah facing his first primary in about 36 years, handily won over
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tea party-backed dan linquist. >> some almost call it a savory move, others will say it's to turn her back on the democratic party. claire mccaskill from miss your e is not going to be at the democratic national convention. in an interview with politico, she said she has a hard election ahead of her and doesn't have the time to waste at parties and schmoozing. others are passing on the convention including john tester from montana, pennsylvania mark crits and new york representative cathy hokel and billowens and u.s. federal judge in miami is blocking rick scott's attempt to overstep his political boundaries once again. the florida governor signed a law saying the companies that do business in syria and cuba cannot bid on state or local contracts. south florida based subsidiary of a brazilian company filed a suit and won an injunction. the judge agreed that the federal government has the authority to enact laws having to do with foreignpom and not
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in the conversation, take your calls at 866-55-press. good to have you with us today. thank you for joining us here on current tv or your local progressive talk radio station, listening or watching or both. good to have you a part of the program and join the team, here the entire team in place today. peter ogburn and dan henning here in studio. and cyprian bowlding behind the karmdz. >> good morning. >> happy wednesday. cameras. >> good morning. >> happy wednesday. >> sad passing yesterday of a very, very wonderful and talented woman. never met her but i have been a big fan of nora ephrons, finally, lost her battle with cancer at the age of 71. >> a beautiful 71, by the way. that woman did not look like she aged. >> that's right. no. she looked really good. >> yeah. >> i first met her or got to know her with her grant book
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"heartburn." she wrote about her heart break with carl bernstein. that was her second marriage and a very very funny book which turned outed to be a blockbuster movie movie, and then she went from writing great novels into making great films when harry met sally, sleepless in seattle. julie and julia was one of her latest ones and most recently read her last book called "i remember nothing." a very funny series of he isessays. it's a quick read. i read it on one plane flight. i laughed all the way through it. a very talented woman and she gave us some of the funniest scenes in movies in our lifetime. right? will we ever forget the scene in when harry met sally? >> oh, oh oh god.
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i will. >> i will have what she is having. >> she is proving that a woman can indeed fake an orgasm. >> that's a woman at the next table, an older woman. >> it's a real accomplishment to have a scene in the movie that everybody knows and recognizes. she had several. >> yeah. >> sleepless in seattle stuff with the radio scene and then heartburn heartburn, the pie to the face. and then that, of course, is one of the best known scenes in all of movies. she really produced some funny stuff. >> she was great. very very talented. and, you know, good tooime to go back. if you have a chance pick up "i remember nothing." great summer read. boy, what a program we have for you coming up here. simone campbell sister simone campbell from nuns on the bus rolling at this hour somewhere in ohio. will join us at the top of this hour. then we will talk to two democratic congressmen, joe courtney and adam shift from
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california. i am very excited. then at the top of the next hour, to welcome here in studio joe williams the reporter suspended by politico for his comments about mitt romney last week. we haven't heard from joe williams. nobody has heard from him so far until now. he has kept his silence. he is stepping up to speak out for the very first time right here on the full-court press at the top of the next hour. so don't miss that interview. but first: >> this is the full court press. >> on this wednesday, other headlines making news in sports the likely number 1 nba trade has trademarked his eye browns anthony davis, likely to be picked by the hornets in the nba draft. known for his unibrow. sol he has trademarked "fear the brow and raise the brow." they have been used heavy hi but he couldn't make money off of those because of college
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basketball now he can. >> he has no space in between his eyebrows. >> it thins out just a little here above the nose. but it's a unibro> w. >> is he the only one to have one? i have never even -- i don't think i have ever scene one. >> there are other funny people who have unibrows. >> i have never seen one that i remember. i am going to go looking for them. >> duchess kate has become quite the fashion icon but she doesn't wear a cheap dress. the cost of her ward drubbed has totalled about 56,000$56,000 for clothes since january. >> the alexander dress for the jubilee cost $2,000. the question is who is paying for these clothes? her husband's 68,000 dollar salary can't. prince charles and inheritance from friends of diane a help paying for the clothes as well.
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that being said, she is also known for shopping at several second-hand stores as well for her every day clothes. >> i don't think we have to worry about where kate's clothes, how they are getting paid for. i think she will make out somehow. >> if you are looking for a cheap hotel and are using the online travel agency orbitz. don't use an apple computer. you will probably pay more if you are not paying attention. "the wall street journal" tells us orbitz has been showing higher priced hotel options to macintosh users because they believe they are willing to pay more than windows' users. the prices are not different only natural different order on the website when you look at them on a mac. >> the same hotel but if you are a mac user then the more expensive hotels are at the top because they assume people who have macs will spend more money or have more money because the macs are a more expensive product. that's not a dumb business
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decision no. some think it's a deception. >> before you run, maybe you will do this at the top of the next hour. you expected the story about the college football. right? it's a billing deal, isn't it. >> bcs, this is the issue that obama was so worked up about? right? >> yeah. >> thinking we ought to change the system. >> now they have started a very very small play-off system of 14. >> look. it's a first step, which i think is interesting. and i think they will only be able to build on it. i am not sure where the number 4 comes into it. but you can have a 4-team play-off in college football now. >> but what surprised me when i saw this is, first of all, there wasn't more news about it. but, also, that it happened just sort of quickly because, you know, the last couple of years at the top for the playoffs the bowl games, there was all of this fuss about again they had not changed the system, it was unfair and there should be a
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more equitable system with some sort of play-off. >> there are people saying this is not enough. as peter said, it's certainly a good first step. the potential goal is to get something like the college basketball does, 16 teams in a back bracket and a flashy tournament with better opportunity versus how much money is this school going to generate us this year? >> okay. dan, we will have to put that down as add that to the list of accomplishments for president obama. up there with healthcare reform saving the auto industry and getting osama bin laden and figuring the college football load. >> that's change you can believe in. i love it. got my vote. >> i will tell you. on the road again, yes indeed, we were so happy a couple of weeks ago to have sister simone campbell from the network in the studio with us. and to talk about what the american nuns are up to these days particularly with their
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leadership on healthcare and leading opposition to the paul ryan budget plan. she told us about their plans to head off on a delegation of none's along the road to talk to the american people about this. they have been called now the nuns on the bus. i think that's the banner on the side of their bus. and sister simone campbell joins us from the bus right now. somewhere, i think i heard between cleveland and youngstown ohio. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> how is it going? >> bill, this is such an amaidsing, amazing trip. we gather in prayer and it's a rotating crowd. today, we are smaller than we have been. 4 of us on the bus. but it's an amazing experience to hear the stories and this morning, we said: what a sacred journey this is to have a bit of the story of so many people
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inside of us now. it's like we are carrying them with us. and the challenges the suffering, the hope, the sense of joy when people come together has been so uplifting and humbling, i can't even begin to tell you. it's fabulous. >> where do you head today, sister? what's the agenda for today? >> wido it one step truck driver. next is young's town and this evening, pittsburgh. we will be at the sisters of the divine providence. we are going to do what we call a friend razor there. we are making a couple of stops at sister's site, in youngstown and to see some of the outreach programs. i must say i feel like a batton in a relay race.
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>> what kind of resepingsdz are you getting when you roll into these events? >> you can't believe t i am calling the bus a rolling smile because people cannot do anything but smile when they look at this bus. it's a joyous bus and the response of people is wedging. people are clapping and waving and people on porches as we drive by waving at us. people in cars honk. it's like a celebrity or something. >> rock star. >> rock star but there is a hunger to know there is hope and we can be a better nation. that message, i think, is what is resonating so deeply this hunger to bridge the divide and,
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also, our message about the ryan budget, you talk about it long enough, boil it down. >> that's what i was going to ask you. like what is the essence of the message that you are delivering as you move across the country about the ryan budget? >> it's real simple. it's our solution to the ryan budget which is wrong. it's immoral. it's just money and our solution is this. what we need is reasonable revenue for responsible programs. and every place we have been we have seen these responsible programs that do such fabulous work at helping people pull their lives together and be a better nation. those responsible programs need reasonable revenue. that will mean tax increases for all of us. >> i like that. >> we can pay our fair share. >> responsible reasonable revenue for responsible programs.
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>> reasonable revenue for responsible programs. she is one of the nuns on the bus and follow them at nunsonthebus.com. see their itinerary and the message they are sending out. so sister, i know you told us when you were in studio that you were going to be showing people a letter from the bishops opposing the ryan budget plan just as your sisters have done. has there been any participation by or presence of byrnes on the your travels? >> we had the greathon to meet bishop pattes. he is one of the signers of the letters to congress saying it was an immoral budget and we thanked him for his leadership. so it was a wonderful way to start the trip with that
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opportunity additionally, we had priests and all kinds of folks that are supportive of this position and some that aren't. this is really interesting to me. some people who may not agree necessarily with the politics of it are really touched by the spirituality and hunger to find a way to talk talk to each other. we have had absolutely no, you know hecklers or yellers or, you know, all of those things that you see, you know, on cable television. >> yeah. >> somehow this experience is allowing everybody to find a way in. >> unlike the political can candidates on the bus who run into hecklers. sister, if you are in pittsburgh tonight, you are getting close to home? >> i know. my bed. >> i am thinking our studio. >> that's what i am thinking. when will you actually be, then back in dc?
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>> well, july 2nd, we get home. we are going to do an intrp faith prayer thing that folks have been doing outside the methodist building every day for solidarity with us on the bus. we are going to be upstairs at noon and do our inter faith prayer. i don't know if you call it a prayer and rally. i don't know if you can put the two together but it's going to be a great welcome home. so monday july 2nd, we will be back in. does c. >> noon, july 2nd at the methodist house right across the street from the u.s. capitol there, noon on monday. then as soon as you can we will be back in touch with you. as soon as you can where back in d.c., be in studio and show us pictures and tell us about it. >> it would be a great honor to do that bill. >> thank you for your great work, sisters. thank you for your leadership. we are proud of you all and give our best to the nuns on the bus. sister simone campbell. follow them at noneunsonthebus.com
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tv. >> you've got it. 26 minutes after the hour, congressman joe courtney from connecticut in studio with us for the next half hour here on the full-court press and then joe williams at the top of the next hour, suspended politico reporter telling his side est story for the first time. a little on the political front, condi rice saying, yeah, i may have had a good time at mitt romney's exclusive weekend getaway for his rich donors but ain't no way i am going to agree to run for vice president with him on the ticket if asked. you know, that's a little xwubl keeps coming up. she pops the bubble every time. i think we can believe her. i don't think she would be a particularly good morning candidate. charlie rangel defied odds. he had a serious primary challenge for the first time in years. he is 82 years old. he was of course reprimanded by the house, forced to pay a fine
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for ethics violations but he survived his primary challenge last night. he will be re-elected he is grateful to the people of his district. >> there is so much that has to be done in this country treat and my community. and i am just glad that my community has faith and confidence in me doing it. >> "viewpoint" joe biden, like president obama out on the stump yesterday, he was in water lou iowa and he said let's give mitt romney credit. he knows how to create jobs. >> you have to give mitt romney credit. he is a job creator in singapore, china india. >> good line, joe. good line. i think we ought to use that line all over again. >> yeah. >> he says he is a job creator. he is a john creator, anywhere, anywhere but here in the united states of america where we need those jobs. what's going on with student loans? really a deal? we will ask congressman joe courtney next.
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find out more about good their good work uilco.com. it looks like we may have some kind of agreement, a bi-partisan agreement on the senate on the issue of student loans. it's one issue that we have talked about a lot lately with congressman joe courtney from connecticut who joins us back in studio again this morning. congressman, good to see you. >> good morning, bill. >> thank you for stopping bio your way to work. >> sure. >> so we've got to get to the house first. but without a lot of details, the senate leadership announcing yesterday it looks like they have come together on a student loan deal. what can you tell us about? >> sure. three days away from the trigger. >> yeah. >> the trademark of this congress to run it to the absolute brink. >> unbelievable. >> that's what you and i were talking about off line. what it appears yesterday is that harry reid and mitch mcconnell have negotiated a way to pay for a one-year extension
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which is another trademark 2.4% lower rate. the offsets are two that have been out there now for about two or three weeks. one is to sort of smooth out the premium guarantee corporation premium rates which, again, now has a lot of variation for companies and actually the business community is fine with this reform, which basically kind of smooths it out or standardizes the rate. >> tax rate. >> premium rate that goes into the guarantee fund. again, that's the fund that is there to catch workers when companies suddenly go belly-up and can't pay their pension obligations. so the -- and the net effect of that, according to cbo is, you know, an increase to the treasury over 10 years. that just about covers the cost of that 1-year extension. there is one other change, which would cap the eligibility for the subsidized lower rate at six
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years. in other words, a college student, undergraduate college student after six years of being in college really can't use that lower rate for a 7th year or an 8th year. >> i got it. >> that also provides some net save savings, which, again, i think most people would say that actually that's probably a good incentive for people that take advantage of the lower rate and hopefully get their degrees in a reasonable time. >> both sides able to come together. yeah, they should have done it a month ago and come up with a longer solution for a year. they have been able to come up with this solution in a pretty reasonable way of paying for it, it seems to me. so what's the house going to do? >> that's the question. mitch mcconnell, himself, yesterday, when they were announcing the outline of the deal basically said that whether it passes or not is in the hands
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of the house republicans. speaker boehner's office, all they would indicate was that his people are studying the proceedposal proposal. and, you know, really, if you go back to january when president obama laid this issue at our feet at the state of the union address and the hostile reaction of john kline. he is not a bad guy. he thought it was bad policy to extend the lower rate. the ryan budget locked in the higher rate. >> right. >> it was only when the president went on the road really started talking to the american people, mitt romney caved immediately and said he supports the president's position, and that's when boehner rushed that bill to the floor that again just disgrace fully paid for the offset by taking money out of preventative care. >> right. >> which got only 34 votes in the senate by the way when it was, you know, put up for a vote in thenate.
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this is going to be through gritted teeth if it happens. there are issues about whether the highway transportation bill which i know you have been talking about, also had a three-day shelf life this week, you know, often comes together with a compromise. it's in terms of where boehner will come out. i was on the floor with my count down chart. virginia foxx was the republican floor leader on the rule we were debating who again was actually still, you know, complaining about the fact that 2007, the democrats cut the rate from 6.8% to 3.4%. so, i mean you know -- >> she is the one on record saying -- >> she has no sympathy for people. >> who need to get a loan. >> the woman of the higher education subcommittee in this caucus. again, it's almost iconic example of the, you know, the people that are in charge because of the republican majority and frankly we've got to stop that this fall with the
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election. >> so the house is going to have to bite the bullet or not on student loans before the end of the week and also on the transportation bill that passed the senate 425 or something like that. >> two months ago. >> yeah. >> barbara boxer and jim inhofe talk about strange bed fellows. >> can't get more bi-partisan than that. >> or weird than that. >> that's in front of the house. it's like they can't take yes for a answer. >> absolutely. i will tell you when i am home which is all the time now you know, we just finished our ninth week of recess this year with this congress. and yesterday, the rule that we were voting on was to have a motion to adjourn for the 10th week this year. >> i want to stop you therefore a second. wait a minute. we are june, end of june.
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okay? ? >> yeah. >> so roughly, six times 24 weeks and you have had nine weeks of recess? >> yeah. absolutely. >> how do you like that deal, peter? >> i take it. i would take it in a heart beat. >> can we recess? >> you can. >> it would make homer simpson blurb blush. again, we are going back home next week. >> a couple of days to get ready and a couple of days to recovery. >> portman is supposed to be home for independence day. when i was home last week to finish this up, i was talking to some of the building contractors in connecticut who are sitting there with unemployed work force, idle machinery, a list of projects in connecticut as long as your arm, you know, in terms of roads bridges, and they are
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completely paralyzed because of the fact that the state dot like every state dot right now can't move without the highway authorization being passed down here. and, you know, the 90-day extension just doesn't work in terms of road projects. you have to have longer than the horizon. if there is any criticism of the boxer-in hov compromise is it's a two year bill rather than the 5 year, transportation bills going back to eisenhower always were. but in this congress, like the student loan deal, you will take a year extension on them and two years on harps, but, i mean, again, we really need to do a lot better in this country. >> i that you had the -- how about the violence against women act? >> absolutely. >> where the senate has come together. >> with a bi-partisan vote and with every law enforcement, women's advocacy group child advocacy group totally supporting that measure and rejecting the bill that the
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houses ran through, again, they took issues look i can the emergency visa protection that was put in place back in the '90s so that if a victim of domestic violence was here as documented or undocumented immigrant that the police could get an emergency visa to not sort of caudle the victim nems. when you are a victim of that, you need help but more to preserve the evidence so that you can prosecute the perpetrator, and that was stripped in the house bill because, again, they thought it was somehow a scam to get amnesty which is about as perverse. >> congressman joe out in front on many of the important issues facing the congress at this critical time especially when we
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home.com. they are giving away a thousandbucks a day to somebody just for checking them out, and that lucky somebody could be you. but only if you check them out at incomeathome.com incomehome.com. congressman, how do you read the supreme court decision on immigration? even a state like connecticut, far from the border is impacted by this issue. i guess i have two questions. what do you think is the ruling and the impact of it? and secondly, is immigration as big a problem today as republicans still pretend that it is? >> well first of all, i think, you know, if you look at the composition of the majority and minority, i mean it actually was somewhat encouraging to see roberts and kennedy actually team up for what on balance, was, i think, a pretty, you know, smart outcome, which is
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that states just cannot go out and unilaterally set up their own system of enforcing immigration laws. >> you can't have 50 different foreign policies and you can't have 50 different immigration policies? >> that's right. >> is what they were saying. >> and so, you know, in terms of just looking to tomorrow there is, i think actually a glimmer of hope that maybe that would be the coalition that we made come around to a final opinion. and again, despite all of the, you know, the speculation, if you look at the circuit courts that brought the case to the sport from and conservative like warren silverman, the commerce clause gives congress that authority to set up a system like we did with the affordable care act. so i actually was really kind of encouraged by it in terms of, you know, showing that this is
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not a court that is just on every single issue in a break, 5-4 against the administration. >> no. it looked like roberts was saying, although it could flip the other way -- >> that's through. >> it looked like roberts was saying, so, you see, i am not the predictable partisan that you thought i was on every issue. >> right. >> on the second point, i was talking earlier, looking at the decision yesterday, i wanted to do a little research on how bad this flow of immigrants across the border is these days and actually, the pew hispanic scepter just in april, a couple of months ago, reported that they came to the conclusion that illegal immigration in this country is basically to a halt. there are as many people leaving the country today as there were coming in. the numbers coming in are the lowest they have been in desk it's a and there are twice as main agents at the border. the board the border is really kind of secure. so this crisis that we keep
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hearing about from the part of the republicans is they have come and gone, you know. i want almost resolved itself. >> one of those agents is my nephew, phillip, who actually is in arizona, a graduate of lehi. he is part of that search of agents that started under bush but certainly under president obama has continued. so they have really beefed up the system down this you are right. the economics is different than it was in the 2000s. hiring and this country being seen as a destination for people who were looking for work. farmners connecticut do use i am grant labor still, you know, to milk the cows and pick the crops. we have a lot of hospitality with the casinos that use a lot of immigrant workers to make sure that the, you know, restaurants and hotel rooms, et cetera. so there actually is a -- i would say a pretty significant immigrant workforce in eastern
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connecticut and, frankly, the employers still, you know, love having folks come in from all parts of the world. they are looking for a system that they can have confidence in and are frustrated again, by the fact that congress allows the politics to get in the way of a smart way -- >> comprehensive immigration ruling. >> absolutely. >> before we let you go, i know you had a big dinner last night, campaign committee. i don't think there is going to be any improvement, any change until we get new leadership and get rid of the obstructionists, john boehner and eric cantor or. what are the chances? >> there is no question we are going to pick up seats. >> you need 25? >> we need 25. you know, if you look at some of the retirements that are going to happen in our caucus and, you know southern districts, i mean we probably need a little bit more than 25 just because of the fact that some of these seats are going to be almost impossible to hold on to with,
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you know, mike ross in arkansas who, you know, that's a real out post right now in terms of our caucus. if you look at the generalic polling, there was a dip about a month or two ago, but voters prefer democrats by 3 to 4%, most polls. bloomberg had us up 7 which came out the other day. you know, steve israel has done just a magnificent job. >> absolutely. >> keeping the district competitive, financially. we have surpassed the house republicans, which is pretty amazing, given the fact that, you know, this town money graphtates to the majority party. >> sure. sure sure. we have got a great recruitment, 60 challenger races with top-notch people running real cam pages, not token people on the ballot. so, you know, again, i think it's a little quick to sort of see whether or not we get over the hurdle but again as we watch the events of this week and, you know, frankly we haven't talked
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about postal reform. we haven't talked about, you know, the doctor's fees. we haven't talked about unemployment insurance. there were so many things that are sitting out there that the american economy and people need action on. you know, the 10th week of recess that we are about to go to. we have to keep hammering that message home. this congress is not unproductive and unpopular because of democrats and republicans. it's because of republican leadership. >> or lack of leadership. joe courtney, great to see you congressman. thank you for coming in. come back soon and i know you will. i will be back to tell you what the president is up to today. he is in town today. >> this is the bill press show. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ]
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>> this is the bill press show. >> you got it. president obama is giving a little -- getting a little late start at the whitehouse. he won't get to the presidential daily briefing until noon. i hope he gets to sleep in a little bit or work out relax a little bit. then he has a private lunch in the private dining room with the crowned prince for abu dabai, mohammad binzayed. he will attend a campaign event at the jefferson hotel at 16th street in washington, d.c. tonight, welcoming members of congress, republicans and democrats to the white house south lawn. is it should be a beautiful night for the annual congressional picnic. jay carney back in the briefing schedule today will have a briefing today at 12:30. i will be there rep 'senting all of you. joe williams coming up next. >> this is the bill press show.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> hey, good morning, everybody. it's wednesday june 27th. good to see you today. welcome to the full-court press. your new morning show on current tv, the online progressive morning show anywhere on cable t.v. in this entire country. we have a lot to talk about this morning, very excited at the top of this hour. we will be welcome be joe williams into our studio. you know joe williams. he is the white house correspondent for politico congressional correspondent for politico, suspended by politico last week for his comments about mitt romney that he made on
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msnbc. joe has not spoken out so far, but he will do so in just a few minutes right here at the top of this hour on the full-court press for the first time. stay tuned for that and we will begin as we always do by getting all of the latest today's current news update from jacki schechner out in los angeles, standing by. hello, jacki. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everyone. new york attorney general eric schneiderman is taking a look at campaign spend and in particular honing in on the u.s. chamber of commerce which does considerable political advertising and lobbying for a small group of influential corporations. according to the "new york times," he has subpoenaed e-mail, records and other documents from the national chamber foundation, which is affiliated with the chamber of commerce. they have illegally funneled $18 million to it. it's also looking into the connection between the foundation and a new york-based philanthropy that gave large grants to the foundation in
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2003, 2004. the dollar amounts between the three entities seem to correspond. snyderman has jurisdiction because tax-exempt groups have to file reports and tax returns with his. officials in arizona are now saying it's going to be difficult to check people's immigration status without racial profiling. this week, the supreme court upheld arizona show me your papers law requiring officers to determine immigration status if they believe someone is in the country illegal lee. two million himself live in arizona, about a third. state's population and most of them are here illegally. police are going to undergo a refresher course and say they will protect civil rights. when you are at the u.s./mexico border, they say it's going to be difficult to enforce a law without racially profiling and because you can never have too many polls in one of day, we will give you the latest quinnipiac that have president obama up in florida, ohio and pennsylvania by 4, 9, and 6 points, respectively. we will be back right after the
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(vo) john fugelsang is filling in >> he caved on the public option, he caved on the bush tax cuts, the guy has caved so many
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times there are miners trapped inside of him. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> broadcasting across the nation, on your radio, and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> fired up and ready to go. here we are on this wednesday, june 27th. hello, everybody. and welcome to the full-court press here on current tv and on your local progressive radio show. radio station. good to have you with us wherever you happen to be in this great land of ours we are here from our nation's capitol, around country and around globe. let's get right to it. you know in this age of new media, more and more reporters
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are invited on the radio shows and on the television shows to give their account of what's going on. and sometimes even give their opinions and, as one might expect in this new political age," several reporters have gotten in trouble for giving their opinions. we remember roland martin suspended not so long ago for cnn for some things that he tweeted. david shuster, a couple of years ago, suspended by msnbc for some comments he made while interviewing me by the way, about chelsea clinton. and the latest reporter to be taken behind the wood shed so to speak is joe williams, the white house correspondent and the congressional correspondent for lick politic suspended last week for comments he made about mitt romney. joe williams joins us in studio. he has been sort of undercover
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but he emerges to tell his side of the story. good to be here. >> good to be here. >> a good friend of the program. >> 7. >> as an fob and i always love having you in. let us start to get the facts. what is your current status with politico? you were suspended laugh week. are you still with politico? >> i am still with politico. i am suspended without pay indefinitely. there are determinations. they are working to determine what the length of that suspension is going to be, what the outcome is going to be is still uncertain, so right now i am in limbo, but hopefully, something will be resolved sooner rather than later. >> are you talking to politico? are you guys in touch? >> we are in touch. let's put it that way. also, lawyers -- up front, i haveam very limited about what i can say about my own personal situation with politico. there are communications going back and forth. we are trying to resolve the situation. they want to resolve it. so do i. the sooner the better for both
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sides. >> would you like the outcome of that to be that you continue your job with politico? you want to stay with politico? >> well, that's a question that we are working on. >> what do you want? what would you like? >> it's a question we are working on. i mean at this point, this is one of those, the matters that we are discussing. and i know that they have said some very positive things about me in the last couple of discussions that we have had. and i know that they respect my work, and i know that where i go, going forward, i am kind of at a point where some decisions have to be made. and that's what we are looking at. >> what did you mean last week when you tweeted that it's done between me and politico? >> at that pointed, it was basically talking about the discussions that we had that evening. we were talking back and forth, and sta point, i felt like we were finish with the discussions
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for the time being. we suspended talking with one another for a small time period. and it was basically to signal that we are finished talking for this moment that things were not -- it did not mean done. >> all right. now, again i assume all of our washers, our viewers and listeners heard that interview with martin brashear. i would like to play the essence of it, the comment that really tended up getting you in hot water here? >> hot water. >> mark brashear and david -- get the other guy who was on with you. >> i can't david korn. >> david korn? >> yes. >> here is -- here you are respond to go martin brashear and the comment was about mitt romney, who feels very comfortable on fox and friends but not necessarily so comfortable in other venues. >> it's very interesting that he
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billed so many appearances and unscripted is the only time they let mitt off of the leash so to speak but it points out a larmer problem he wants to solve if he wants to be successful come this fall. romney is very, very comfortable it seems with people like him. >> that's one of the reasons he seems so stiff and awkward and in some settings, he can't relate to people but when he comes off, they like him. there are white folks who are very much relaxed in their own company. so it really is a very stark contrast, i can't, and a problem he has not been able to solve to date and is going to have to work harder. >> williams were mark brashear last week last thursday. any redepressed? >> thinking about it, thinking twice, i probably should have selected my words a little bit more carefully. it was a situation where i was attempting to scribe something and the words weren't coming fast enough. the ones i chose were in some
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people's minds incendiary. writ large, no. i think people understood what i meant but to a small corner of washington and to a small corner of people who like you and i do this for a living, it's like waving a red flag front of a bull. >> do you feel like you apologize? >> if i apologize for that there will have to be many others. there have been many people who shall said the same thing. it's not a head line grabber by any means. it only became incendiary when the big media decided that that was issomething that they needed to dig into and, in doing that they selectedively -- it was selective prosecution, if you will and selective evidence from a file that they managed to dig into and put a lot of stuff out there that wasn't -- an arrangement to make me appear biased.
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>> i want to get to that in a second but there are others who said you were absolutely spot-on what you said about mitt romney meaning -- and we can go back to the lit knee of some of my best friends on nfl team, some my best friends are nascar teams? >> dressage. >> there are many occasions where he has shown difficulty in relating to average americans and being uncomfortable people who are not like him action wealthy people but what made it insendary was the word "white"? >> "white focuslks." reviewing the game film to me those two words were the ones that set people off. white folks, mitt romney is a match to a tender keg among
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certain segments of people who want to try to push back on what they believe is the liberal media. >> what happened? do you believe that those words were seized upon, taken out of context, blown up by people with their own political agenda? >> certainly, i think that what happened in my instance and what happened to a lot of -- in a lot of instances if you want to trace-back. i kind of drew up a scorecard, journalism journalism, radical conservatism zero or vice versa in this case. i think in my view, what happened is that the fact that i said that led, you know, red tape, charging bull, led them to try to say ah ha we have something here. let's try to figure out what thiswhat's record is. there is no way for me to know what was in their mind but it became about me and not what i said. that was something that i think is common to a lot of what you were talking about earlier,
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chris hayes, david shuster, the list goes on. and, you know, now my name is on that list. but the problem that i see here is it's not going to stop there. >> and who are these people that you think are -- that have come after you? >> clearly in my case, it's been two sources that have been the primary ones. the daily caller and big media, brightbark's organization. >> targeting you? >> i would say yeah. i mean in all of the things that i have seen and what politico was reacting to were stories that big media had put out about me or that one story specifically that big media put out about me where they have taken it and looked at my twitter feedth, found things on the twitter feed that they felt justified that i was bias threw it together in a package, put a healthy dose of cynicism on top of t put it out and got retweet after retweet after retweet and that became what my -- what john harris at politico called a
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blank storm. >> and said those comments were unacceptable. had you been warned by politico ahead of time, before this? had you said things before either tweeted or on the air that politico said, hey, joe, you have to be careful here? >> absolutely. i had been talked about that and i had tried to dial my comments back, and i toned down my twitter feed just for that reason. >> the daily caller, as you mentioned, they went through your twitter feed and one of the twitters -- one of the tweets that they found from you is that racism was the secret sauce, con -- contained this phrase racism, the secret sauce and politico -- i can't say the word on the air. >> yeah. it was very scat logical. >> s burger. >> yeah. >> what duds mean by that? >> twitter is a immediatium that rewards speed. it rewards lack of thought. at a time rewards instant
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reaction. i was quite active on my twitter feed and i was communicating with a friend of mine. this was something that i absolutely did not intend for public consumption and twitter is very easy to get that that part of it messed up. certainly, at that point i was spouting. i was venting. i had frustrations at work. there were frustrations in some of the things that i saw that was going on the political landscape and i was in a very irritated place. i vented and i vented in error. i vented in a public place and that was a huge mistake. did you hear from your readership of politico? >> i did not. >> i guess, joe, the central question here is: do you think it's okay for a journalist -- i am a commentator. right? everybody knows i am a liberal. i make know bones about it. ever since i started i started as a political commentator. i give my opinions. you are not. right? right? >> not presently.
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>> right. do you understand the difference between a commentator and a journalist? and do you think it's appropriate for journalist reporters to give their political opinions news shows? >> i think on news shows, it's easy to talk about what you see and as journists, we are paid to observe, be objective. that doesn't mean we are blind. it also doesn't mean that we ignore things that we see that might not be accurate. part of the issue here is the fact that we have an organization, we have a couple of organizations that have a very clear agenda. we have them who are funded. we don't quite exactly know how but they get their money to do what they do. their agenda is clear. their agenda is to make enough noise, to push back hard enough that organizations, independent organizations, independent news organizations that have foundations, that have credibility to their name fold
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that they are pushed. their pushback is so hard and the organizations decide this is not worth it. we need to take action. it's the school yard bully where if you push back hard enough people won't fight back. the problem i see is it wasn't so much my opinion as it was the fact that this organization decided that they wanted to push back hard against it and do the school yard bully thing and that's what landed me in hot water. >> you think the daily caller and the breitba are k organization are out to take you down? >> take me down is a little self serving. i don't think that i am a guy they need to hang up on the wall but they are in the business. we have seen it. we have seen it. they are in the business of gathering scalps. they are in the business of pushing independent organizations do their point of view or at least react to their point of view. they are in the business of having an agenda to show without question in their minds that the
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media is decidedly liberal that the media has an instant by answer against their side and their sworn cause is to expose it and to take it down. >> joe williams, politico correspondent at the whistle house and in the congress. still holding that post in suspension here in studio with us at the full-court press on this wednesday morning june 27th. we will continue our conversation with joe here in just a moment or so. if you want to join the conversation 866-55-press is our toll-free number. we will be right back. ♪ >> heard around the country and seen on current tv this is the bill press show. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to.
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>> this is the full court press, live on your radio and on current tv. >> it's 25 minutes after the hour on this wednesday, june 27th. congressman adam shipp from california will join us for the next half hour. now we are talk with joe williams congressional core correspondent for politico now temporarily in limbo or in suspension because of some comments last week. we've been talking about. joe, was there a policy at politico about -- look a lot of them good friends, like alan jo be than martin -- jonathan martin and yourself. >> sure. >> we know a lot of them. is there any policy about if you are a reporter for politico, you
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know request we expect you to say this side of it? >> rules of the road. it was unclear to me where exactly the standards were. as you mentioned a i had been warned to stay on the stateraight and narrow. as far as i could hear myself in that chat about mitt romney, i was on the right side of the law, but bays this agenda is out there, daily caller out there, anything they think is close to the edge and any opening that they see they will take advantage of it. >> are you still tweeting? >> i have suspended my tweeter account due to the fact that there was just so much activity. no reporter wants to be the story. you want to cover the story. it became difficult for me to manage my own twitter account because there was so much activity on it. en now i fully expect as a
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result of this interview and some other people, i fully expect them to come back with some more embarrassing things and more things that i tweeted that i probably would regret. but certainly, there are very few people in washington very few reporters in washington who haven't done something that they regret sooner or later and perhaps just haven't gotten caught, so to speak. but my fear is that this will not end with me, that i am not the only one here and i think that journalism, itself especially in the digital age is moving so quickly and the right has such an agenda here that it's impossible for this to be an isolated case. >> so do you see yourself as a victim of the big media and daily caller, or as a target? >> it's hard to say. i mean i don't want to seem like i am a victim i mean because yes, i did have a few things that are questionable some errors in judgment. and that is a big problem that they were able to take advantage
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of i think an opportunity presented itself and they seized it. >> as quickly as you can, your frustration in your tweet about racism at politico, what did you mean? did you see racism a problem at politico? again, i was haven'ting. this is something that i was, you know, i think everybody can relate to, that you have a frustrating day. there are a lot of frustrations in washington, a lot of things that have racist aura. political by and large has a lot of questions as far as that's concerned. >> representation. >> representation. their diversity is a problem for the entire dc press corps. i don't think political is an exception. >> aur good friend. you have been a good friend of this program. i hope it all works out that we can continue to count on your voice as one of us covering washington. thank you for coming in. >> this is the bill press show.
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state chair of the great state of california, one of my important allies out there in southern california, a young man by the name of adam shi if. f. i depended upon him for a lot of help for the various party battles we used to fight together. now, he is an esteemed member of congress, hard-working member of congress and effective member of congress representing california's 29th congressional district. congressman, good to see you. >> good to see you. you look exactly the same. >> i know. get better with age, i guess. thank you for your good work being there. it's good having you in there congressman. a lot of good friends that we work together with. >> absolutely. >> in california. there is so much we want to talk about, but i know you as a former u.s. district attorney what's going on with the eric holder case? the vote is scheduled for tomorrow.
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right, for the first time ever to hold a cabinet member in contempt of congress. how do you read it. >> unfortunately it looks like it's going to go forward and will be, you know, a very partisan issue before the house of representatives. i know that's no surprise these days. >> right. >> it is a real misuse of the contempt power which ought to be jealously used by the congress and only used in extraordinary circumstances. here, you have a justice department that has bent over backwards to meet the legitimate needs of the government reform committee, given about 8,000 documents. the attorney general has been called to testify on eight or nine times but we are now down to documents that are within the executive privilege. they involve the internal delibrative thought process of the department. they are only documents that took place well after the end of this fast and furious operation took place. so it's so it's nothing contemporaneous with the issues. but, you know, i think the g.o.p. leadership is determined to go forward.
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the base is kind of demanding this, and so here we are, yet another partisan fight distracting us from the work we need to do on the economy. >> i thought they were going to talk about jobs. wasn't that their prom? >> well, that was what they said. but we have been passing a lot of pseudo jobs bills that don't do much or anything for the economy. >> it reminds me of the impeachment of bill clinton that the republicans decided this is what they wanted to do, and this was newt gingrich's time. right? this was how they were going to make a mark. hear it looks like john boehner said we are going to make our mark by holding eric holder in contempt of congress and what's going to happen as a result? he is not going to lose his job? right? >> no. no. he isn't. you know, this did have -- >> it'spule political? >> it is purely political at this point. i think it started out legitit matly. you had under the bush administration and current administration that were allowed to so-called walk into mexico. in other words, we knew these guns with going south of the border. there was a, you know, a
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scannedously poor judgment that we could follow these guns to the car tells and help make cases against them. but while this had a legitimate beginning, it has long since become unmoored from its foundation. now, it is simply a partisan attack on the attorney general and on the president. >> would he ever -- do you believe that there would come a time when darryl issa would say, okay. thank you. you have given us everything we asked for? >> no. of course not. in fact, the more they gave them, the more they asked for. >> that's the problem. >> i think the goal was to get to the i mpasse and if you push long enough, you are going to get to an impasse. i have known darryl for a long time. i don't know if this is where he started out wanting to get to this point or whether he feels compelled by his leadership or by the base of the party that they, you know, have got to go after the admin stration that and this is one way they can show their base that they are doing that.
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but it really diminishes the power of the congress and the power of contempt and we know what the result is going to end up being which is mostly party line vote followed by an action in federal court to enforce the contempt and get the documents and then a settlement. and the settlement which will be months or years from now will be that the justice department will turn over pretty much the same documents its offered to turn over already. >> uh-huh. >> on the executive -- so the white house has asserted executive privilege for the rest of the -- for the remaining documents. i thought it was interesting, john boehner right away said this proves the white house is part of this cover-up. >> right. >> even darryl issa last sunday said there is no evidence the white house -- is the white house assertion legitimate, do you believe? and what are the facts? >> no. it isn't legitmat at all to say whenever the executive claims privilege there is something nefarious going on. there was a privilege for a
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reason. >> that's you need to protect the deliberative process of the president. you want the president to be able to seek the good advice of members of his cabinet in high white house officials. >> which every administration has asserted. right. >> every administration has asserted. you also want to protect the deliberations of the executive branch agency so that they feel some confidence when they have internal discussions that there will they would /* they will be candid so there are legitmat purposes and the same republicans who are crying foul now were defending the bush administration, both w. and h.w. when they invoked the privilege. but it's interesting in terms of chairman issa because he went on sunday and said there is no evidence that this goes back to the white house. he has quickly walked back from that and i think probably his leadership or the base jumped on him and said how dare you? the emperor has no clothes. you better get out there and say the emperor has clothes congressma schiff first visit
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to our full-court press. glad to have you here if you want to join the conversation give us a call at 866-55-press. this, by the way, this vote is just one final question: it doesn't then go to the senate. right? >> right. >> this is a house deal? >> this is a house deal. and it will, you know go to the courts essentially. they will have to file an injunctive action after this to seek the documents. >> congressman one of the other issues that you have been very involved in and out spoken on this issue of campaign finance reform, the supreme court had an opportunity this week to say, maybe we could take another look at citizens united two years later and see how it's working and what the impact of it is. they had that opportunity with the montana law and they chose not to do so, basically saying we are going to stick with citizenship united come hell or high water. right? >> that's right. it's tragic. in the citizens united indicates, they took a narrow set of facts and which they
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could have had a narrow holding which would not have opened the flood gates for all of this money and decided to write the opinion in such a way that it completely overturned prior law. >> gutted everything? >> gutted everything, and just let a torrent of huge and often anonymous spending take places. in the montana case, they had the chance to dial it back and say, okay. we have seen in the months and years since citizens that this has been an unmitigated disaster. maybe we ought to try to narrow our holding, but they just doubled down on citizens united and there is really no way to see the end of this. i have been very reluctant to go the constitutional amendment path but given how determined this court is to completely unshackle vast expenditures, that may be the only way to get this genie back in the bottle. >> i know some are working on that. bernie sanders in the studio with us talking about that. like you, i am reluctant to break open the constitution another amendment or something
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like that. i don't know. i don't know how else. you certainly are not going to -- cannot count on this court. >> no. >> to rethink it. >> that's very true. i have come to that conclusion. in fact, i introduced a constitutional amendment last week. >> you did? >> the text written by larry tribe at harvard. it does two things. it says that nothing in the constitution prohibits content-neutral limitations on campaign contributions or expenditures. but it also says that laws like you know, the state of arizona, the voters in arizona passed which would allow for public financing, when one of the candidates exceeds campaign limits is constitutional. unfortunately, the supreme court also struck down that arizona law, which to me makes no sense. if your theory is that, you know, money is speech then in theory, public financing is more speech. but nonetheless, the court found a way to strike that down as well. >> what struck me -- what i
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thought was interesting about the montana decision was here was a case where the hundred years ago that the people of mon montana had clear and compelling evidence that the copper barrons had bought at that state legislature, owned the politics and they said we cannot allow this to happen. this is total corruption. by a citizens initiative 100 years ago, they cleaned up montana politics. the montana supreme court reaffirmed that last year saying this is still important in our state. and this conservative court, which has always preached states' rights, in this case, they said, no, you montanans do not have the right to ban corporate con tributions. do they believe in states' rights or not. >> i guess they believe in corporate rights more. corporations are people and states are not people. it is extraordinary when you read the citizens united opinion, it is so naive, it's startling that the justices
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there in the majority basically posit that an independent expenditure is different from a contribution because it couldn't possibly corrupt and it could never have the appearance of corruption. >> right. >> if you accept that logic, that means that sheldon adelson can be limited constitutionally in that he can't give more than $5,000 to newt beginninggingrich, but he cannot be limited in what he can spend independently. and, therefore, can spend 20 million in and sing-handedly finance a presidential campaign and that would have no influence on gingrich. >> that's just completely at odds with reality. >> yeah. >> this is why a couple of the justices urged the court to let's revisit this in montana. but they were unwilling to do so. >> again, congressman adam schiff on the full-court press this wednesday june 27th. when we come back, congressman we are all awaiting the word on the healthcare reform. i would like to get your take on what you might expect from the court and what remains of the
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mudcat saunders democratic strategist from village who is leading campaign to unseat eric cantor. mudcat and frank rich, that's our free podcast for today for those of you who might have missed the interview. check it out at billpressshow.com. right now, we are talking issues of the day in front of the congress or maybe some of them not in front of the congress with congressman adam schiff from california. let's say a quick hello from madison, wisconsin on the mike. here is eric. >> good morning, guys. i am all in favor of a constitutional amendment. i think it's the right thing to do to overturn citizens united. i just don't know. maybe you guys can help me see the light. how do you get that passed when in such a partisan climate, no republican is going to vote for that? >> congressman, you are the one. >> a very good question because, even things that are far short
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of a constitutional amendment like the dis close act which would require transparency see have got en little or no republican support. i think that will change because as more and more of the g.o.p. members are subject to being attacked being the victims of vast anonymous spending and we are seeing some of the super p.a.c.s go after republicans they may see the wisdom in having some limitation or some disclosure. so i think that we are going to win congress. the more g.o.p. members are also subject to the whims and the caprice and the ire of this expenditure, i think, will win them over. >> one would hope. we saw that even during the primary when newt got his super p.a.c. attacking romney's super p.a.c. attacking santorum's super p.a.c. that there were some complaints that this may be getting out of control. >> and i hear that from g.o.p. house members. >> do you? >> i am not sure they are ready to speak publicly about it but
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privately, they are saying, we have to do something about it because these super p.a.c.s are totally out of control. and they are like a loaded gun. you don't know which way its pointed. >> so sothe time deadline is getting tight here, congressman, before you guys take off for yet another week of recess. any action on student loans? >> i think there will be. i think the g.o.p. leadership is really feeling the heat and the president has very effectively turned that up. >> looks like they have a deal in the senate? >> looks like they have a deal in the senate. it listen househard for the houses to not go along. i think we will resolve it. >> it will not double, the interest rate? >> i think they will be preserved at the lower level. i am hoping we will have a transportation bill. >> what about the highway bill? >> we still have a shot at that. >> you've got a deal in the senate. usually, it's the other way
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around. you can get things around. now the senate is showing the way here. >> when we get through the house, it's a complete partisan creation. when it gets through the senate it often has input from both sides. the transportation bill i hope won't be a bridge too far, that they can get to the senate and we can move through the house without encumbering it with the keystone pipeline which is dead on arrival at the whitehouse. >> the affordable care act, healthcare that we have now for 36 million more americans thanks to obamacare, if you want to call it that do you think it survives friday? >> i sure hope so. i have been very marginally optimistic because i think the chief justice may not want his legacy to be turning the supreme court into a partisan institution. but i am a little skeptical. i guess people are reading the immigration decision different ways. i read fact that that was released first as perhaps the
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chief justice's way of laying the mattress so that when they overturn healthcare reform, it gives the appearance of being even-handed even-handed. so the signal i can in me says that may be responsible for the order. i am hope can i am wrong. you can say the arizona decision was a split decision and it may be that means that healthcare will be a split decision. >> right. >> but what concerns me is i think the constitutional law is so clear and supportive of healthcare reform that if they go in the direction of overtuning it, they will have turned this institution as a court into a different kind of animal, yet another partisan body in this town. we have enough of those. >> absolutely. the most partisan supreme court that we will ever see. it's up to john reports. he has -- john roberts. he has the chance to make it or break it. thank you for coming in. see how easy it is. we are here on capitol hill. >> exactly.
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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> the parting shot with bill press. this is the bill press show. >> hey, how about it on wednesday, june 27th, my parting shot for today, there has been a lot of attention to the supreme court decision on immigration. but here is one important fact that's largely been ignored. : to hear fox news and most of the conservative to be talk show hosts, you think people are pouring across the border armies every day coming here illegally the way they did back in the '80s and '90s. >> that's simply not the case. in fact, just the opposite is
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true, as reported a couple of months ago, in april by the pew hispanic center. quote, the largest wave of immigration in history from a single country, mexico, to the united states, has come to a complete standstill. yep. check the numbers. because of several factors the net flow from mexico to the united states has stopped. it may even have reversed itself. so just making the point that all of this hysteria about illegal immigration today is nonsense. it is much adieu about nothing. what a line-up tomorrow. congressional sklar norm ornstein, charlie gonzalez from texaco and coastal worker from cliff give fy here tomorrow. >> this is the bill press show. book out. she'll be joining us on thursday morning and current tv's joy behar next monday. so have a great day!
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